Clutch or gearbox problem
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Clutch or gearbox problem
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costi |
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Don't worry this is "normal"; get used to it; it's the clutch.
The story started with the previous model "Solenza" and unfortunatelly continues with Logan. On that case it seemed to be a faulty designing. Some Solenzas had their clutches replaced on warranty but the noise continued even with the new clutch (made by the same procer). Anyway keep an eye on it if it becomes noisier. This post has been edited by costi: 9 May 2005, 16:26 |
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AL |
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This problem it is common also for Renault Clio Symbol!!!!....
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AL,10 May 2005, 09:08
Clio is "By Renault", too ... ![]() I have the same problem luk199 ... It is very common. Just press the clutch and it will dissappear ... |
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Logan
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![]() daca exista vointa, orice se poate Group: Members Posts: 630 Joined: 24 March 05 From: Bucharest ![]() |
it might be also the pressure roll bearing witch is not firmly closed to the pressure plate. go to the service
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laguna
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marksman |
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Post mortem nihil est Group: Members Posts: 7.676 Joined: 1 November 04 From: sat ![]() |
If the noise sounds "metallic" or "squeaky" consider a visit to the service, otherwise if it's just "diesel noise" just ignore it. My car has the diesel noise also. Same problem was experienced with Clio Symbol and Solenza, they all had the same type of clutch (Valeo). It just seems like the belgium "Valeo" clutches are of poor quality.
P.S. I have been told that one way to see if the clutch is really faulty (it is "skidding") is to go on a "normal" cruise, shift up to the last gear(normally passing from 1 to 2, from 2 to 3 and so on...) and put the pedal to the metal (go full throttle). If the engine throttles and the car doesn't speed up or speeds up very slowly then the clutch is "skidding" and you need to go to the service. I really doubt however that this will occur soon in a new car... This post has been edited by Illusi0n: 7 Jun 2005, 08:31 |
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Boris |
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QUOTE(Illusi0n @ 6 Jun 2005, 23:45) P.S. I have been told that one way to see if the clutch is really faulty (it is "skidding") is to go on a "normal" cruise, shift up to the last gear(normally passing from 1 to 2, from 2 to 3 and so on...) and put the pedal to the metal (go full throttle). If the engine throttles and the car doesn't speed up or speeds up very slowly then the clutch is "skidding" and you need to go to the service. I really doubt however that this will occur soon in a new car... Having read this I think that my clutch if faulty ![]() Now to be serious, the Logan goes well but the accelleration is really bad. I had a better acceleration with my 65 HP fiesta, than with the Logan. Once it gets going it goes fine. I made 820 km this weekend on vaious roads, a lot of hills an mounatins. I'm pleased with the car, specially on some horriblle roads, but the accelleration is poor. |
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Dacia
Logan Laureate 1.6
2005 + LPG Landi Renzo sequent Reliability of machines is inversely proportional to the number and importance of people watching it
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Post mortem nihil est Group: Members Posts: 7.676 Joined: 1 November 04 From: sat ![]() |
Boris, that test should be done with just you in the car, no luggage(trunk empty), no trailer attached. And yes, on a flat road, don't try this while climbing up hills or coming down a slope. You'll get false results... I agree with you that Logan's acceleration doesn't stand out. Even with my old Dacia 1300 I had better start in the 1st gear.
But believe me, I ran this test on both the old 1300 (in which I suspected clutch problems) and on the Logan. On the old 1300 the engine throttled and I thought it was going to burst until the car moved. Faulty clutch... On the Logan however it just hummed a bit and then it started to gain speed. Clutch OK... This post has been edited by Illusi0n: 7 Jun 2005, 21:03 |
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QUOTE(Illusi0n @ 7 Jun 2005, 20:55) Boris, that test should be done with just you in the car, no luggage(trunk empty), no trailer attached. And yes, on a flat road, don't try this while climbing up hills or coming down a slope. You'll get false results... I agree with you that Logan's acceleration doesn't stand out. Even with my old Dacia 1300 I had better start in the 1st gear. But believe me, I ran this test on both the old 1300 (in which I suspected clutch problems) and on the Logan. On the old 1300 the engine throttled and I thought it was going to burst until the car moved. Faulty clutch... On the Logan however it just hummed a bit and then it started to gain speed. Clutch OK... Offcourse I'm not going to floor the gas pedal on some mountain roads ![]() I think the car is OK, and there is nothing wrong with the clutch so far. But in the low gears the car is a bit lazy. |
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Dacia
Logan Laureate 1.6
2005 + LPG Landi Renzo sequent Reliability of machines is inversely proportional to the number and importance of people watching it
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marksman |
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Post mortem nihil est Group: Members Posts: 7.676 Joined: 1 November 04 From: sat ![]() |
Yeah, that's what I said, too. Before the clutch problem on the 1300 I had a better start in the 1st gear. However the gearbox of the Logan is not built for fast acceleration... Nevermind that. Just enjoy the car, as I do. So far I've had only minor problems, but I only have 2900 km.
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I agree with you boys that acceleration is somewhat slow . Obviously & unfortunately,LGN isn`t made for racing when traffic lights become greenish… ![]() |
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Logan
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There is absolutly no problem with the clutch. The noise is common to almost all Logan's!!!!
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Yes, I can confirm, that the 'diesel' sound is also present on Clio, too. I mean both on Clio Symbol and Bicorp.
You can hear it even more pronounced if you turn on the lights, the AC - more consumers, more 'diesel' sound. I've seen the cluch in pieces because of this problem - beside the sound nothing bad happens. |
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Zafira
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About the poor acceleration: these engines like revs, I mean it starts to live from 3500 rpm up. Just check how is the acceleretion at 4000-4500 rpm, I think it pulls all right for the 75hp.
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mccoy |
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Even poor Yugo 45 has better acceleration in first & second gear...with all his 903ccm.
Yes,it`s model that is mentioned in several famous songs & movies.. ![]() |
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Logan
Laureate 1.6
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Divide et impera ... and unite in EU ! ----------------------------- |
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Boris |
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QUOTE(mccoy @ 17 Jun 2005, 00:17) Even poor Yugo 45 has better acceleration in first & second gear...with all his 903ccm. Yes,it`s model that is mentioned in several famous songs & movies.. ![]() True, true ![]() Specially the part about fame ![]() |
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Dacia
Logan Laureate 1.6
2005 + LPG Landi Renzo sequent Reliability of machines is inversely proportional to the number and importance of people watching it
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kodalo |
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I have noticed that my car starts to "yank" when I release clutch pedal. It happens only with loaded car. I suppose problem is clutch cover. When clutch plate is broken car “skidding”, but now accelerates as usually, only there is little, quite unnoticeable “shaking”.
Does anybody has similar problem? |
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Is not the disc, is not the plate, is the pressure bearing!
If the disc is broken, the car doesn't move at all. If the disc is worned out, the clutch will be skiddin'. If the plate is worned out, either the gearbox will squeak when shifting gears, or you won't be able to shift gears at all. |
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It is called clutch slipping (not skidding)
![]() ![]() If the car stalls it is ok ![]() ![]() You should not be needing a new clutch plate yet though they last ages . ![]() But only if you dont RIDE the clutch ![]() ![]() Stu Click here love your Clutch |
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logan 14 mpi Simply RED
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kodalo |
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No, clutch plate is ok, since I can't start with handbrake. Also there is no noisy in any gear or idle postition, so bearing should be good also.
PS. I have attached picture to clear terms we are talking. Attached thumbnail(s) Clutch31.jpg ( Size: 12.71k ) Number of downloads: 308 |
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Dacia logan
Ambiance 1.4 MPI
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Marty |
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Is either the fork or the bearing! Something doesn't work properly on the longitudinal axle. Maybe the fork is clogged with dirt and doesn't react promptly when you release the pedal. The same problem could be with the bearing.
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Gillette
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